Heathkit C3 Condenser Checker – 25 Volt Mod
Heathkit C3 Condenser Checker – 25 Volt Mod
As noted in my previous post, the 25 volt scale for the leakage test function of the Heathkit C3 Condenser Checker provided a voltage that was considerably higher than 25 volts. It was closer to 50 volts. This seems to be a design flaw, or a documentation flaw, as I don’t know which side of the team dropped the ball. I chose to treat it as a design flaw, since the documentation and the front panel screen printing indicated that it should be a 25 volt scale.
To remedy this problem, I chose to modify the voltage divider in order to provide the 25 volt output, while keeping the rest of the voltage ranges pretty much the same as originally designed (they were all within 1 – 2% of spec, at modern line voltages).
The 10k-ohm resistor at the top of the voltage divider is the one that is supposed to develop the 25 vdc for the 25 volt range.Â The voltage divider is set up to work with about 4.5 ma running through it.
The following table shows the various voltage drops across the resistors in the voltage divider string, as originally designed.Â R1 is the original 10k-ohm resistor, and R1a is a place holder for a second resistor that will be included with the modification.Â It is set to 0.1 ohm here, to keep the spreadsheet from showing a divide-by-zero error when I set it at 0 ohms for this investigation.
R1 | R1a | R2 | R3 | R4 | R5 | R6 | R_Total | Source Volts | Current Total | |
Resistance | 10000 | 0.1 | 22000 | 22000 | 22000 | 22000 | 47000 | 145000.1 | 655 | 0.00452 |
Ind. Voltage Drop | 45.2 | 0.0 | 99.4 | 99.4 | 99.4 | 99.4 | ||||
String Voltage Drop | 45.2 | 45.2 | 144.6 | 243.9 | 343.3 | 442.7 | ||||
Watts Dissipated | 0.20 | 0.00 | 0.45 | 0.45 | 0.45 | 0.45 |
You can see that the 10k-ohm resistor has about a 45 volt drop, consistent with what I measured in use.
Now, by substituting a 5.6k and a 5.1k resistor in series for the single 10k, the results show that the voltage drop is a very usable 25 volts, while keeping the other voltage drops close to their original values.
R1 | R1a | R2 | R3 | R4 | R5 | R6 | R_Total | Source Volts | Current Total | |
Resistance | 5600 | 5100 | 22000 | 22000 | 22000 | 22000 | 47000 | 145700 | 655 | 0.00450 |
Ind. Voltage Drop | 25.2 | 22.9 | 98.9 | 98.9 | 98.9 | 98.9 | ||||
String Voltage Drop | 25.2 | 48.1 | 147.0 | 245.9 | 344.8 | 443.7 | ||||
Watts Dissipated | 0.11 | 0.10 | 0.44 | 0.44 | 0.44 | 0.44 |
I already had some 5.1k-ohm 1-watt resistors in my stash, but had to
order some 5.6k-ohm resistors from China, and wait for the slow boat to
arrive.
When I received my order several weeks later, I set about testing the
new divider string, using some jumper leads before making anything
semi-permanent.
I found that the circuit actually worked best with two 5.1k-ohm resistors in series, rather than one being a 5.6k resistor. That’s probably just from variances in line voltage, and tolerances in resistor values in the string.
So here is the final configuration:
R1 | R1a | R2 | R3 | R4 | R5 | R6 | R_Total | Source Volts | Current Total | |
Resistance | 5100 | 5100 | 22000 | 22000 | 22000 | 22000 | 47000 | 145200 | 655 | 0.00451 |
Ind. Voltage Drop | 23.0 | 23.0 | 99.2 | 99.2 | 99.2 | 99.2 | ||||
String Voltage Drop | 23.0 | 46.0 | 145.3 | 244.5 | 343.7 | 443.0 | ||||
Watts Dissipated | 0.10 | 0.10 | 0.45 | 0.45 | 0.45 | 0.45 |
So you can see in the new configuration, I simply replaced the 10K-ohm resistor with two 5.1K-ohm resistors in series, and placed such that the tap for the 25 volt range is in the middle of them.Â The rest of the resistors and taps remain the same as original.
25 Volt Mod | ||||||
AC Line Input | 25 v Range | 150 v Range | 250 v Range | 350 v Range | 450 v Range | |
Original Config 120 vac | 121.3 | 46.5 | 149.9 | 254 | 357.9 | 460.6 |
Post Mod 115 vac | 116.7 | 23.4 | 145.5 | 244.9 | 343.3 | 441.0 |
Post Mod 120 vac | 121.3 | 24.4 | 151.5 | 254.6 | 357.3 | 459.2 |
So, the C3 Condenser Checker now operates within the specifications in the manual, and matching the front panel labels for controls.
Migrated Comments:
January 14th, 2022 at 1:05 am
Thanks for the detailed explanation of this mod, I’m going to do this with the one that I recently got along with doing a re-cap on it.
I’ll have to find a copy of the manual online so I can get the proper values for all the capacitors. There is a Mica in there like a “domino” I’m new to this and don’t know how to read them yet so I’d like to ask if you had to replace that one also or if normally that one is ok as is?
Have a nice week and thank you again for this post and the YouTube video, well done!
Samson
va3acj@gmail.com
March 14th, 2022 at 7:43 am
Hi Samson. Sorry for the delay in posting. I didn’t get an email saying I had a post waiting. I didn’t have any domino type capacitors in my unit. In looking at the schematic, all of the caps are relatively high values. I would expect any mica caps to be low values, in the hundreds of picofarads at most. I know that some manufacturers used that form factor to package some paper caps, and I expect that is what you have. I would recommend replacement. Good luck and 73… Randy wb0smx